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I’m documenting a real Alibaba Trade Assurance case involving my wife, Ekaterina, with her permission. I’m posting this because buyers should be able to see what a dispute can actually look like when it lasts for well over a year - even when the goods were never shipped. The order was placed in March 2025. The total order value was $16,290, and an initial payment of $4,887 was made. The remaining balance was never paid. The goods were never shipped, delivered, received or accepted. Even now, the Alibaba order page shows “Waiting for supplier to ship”, while the transaction/refund records show no refund. But that is only the simple part of the story. One of the key issues concerned CE-related conformity documentation. Before payment, my wife repeatedly made clear that the requested CE documentation was a condition of the purchase. The seller said it could obtain the exact document after the 30% deposit and expressly stated that if it failed to provide exactly what had been requested, she could cancel the order. After payment, however, the seller supplied a different conformity document rather than the CE document that had been requested. Serbian Customs later confirmed to her that the supplied document could not be accepted as a CE certificate. The situation became even more difficult to understand when Eurber, the organization named in connection with the supplied...

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  • For many months, the dispute was handled the way many buyers probably handle these situations: messages, screenshots, explanations, more screenshots, another dispute round, and another explanation.

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  • [comment u/nadal_nadal] As a rule, Alibaba do not refund. They draw out complaints processed and never answer questions. They put buyers in an endless loop and never clearly answer questions.

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  • “Trade Assurance is worthless. Chinese sellers lie and are considered savvy business people for doing so (among Chinese). Alibaba almost always backs the supplier. I'll still use it, but you need to know who you are doing business with. Either by independent verification from other buyers, or going to china and inspecting product yourself.”

    u/mickeyaaaa4 points · Aug 26, 2026View

  • “Whatever the final outcome, there’s a useful lesson here for buyers doing higher-value custom orders, put every critical requirement directly into the Alibaba order/specification, especially certification, material, inspection rights, cancellation conditions and refund terms. Chat messages may help, but having the key requirements incorporated into the formal order should make a later dispute much”

    u/Alternative_Hat80403 points · Aug 27, 2026View

  • “You were supposed to deal with it on your own. As far the factory is concerned, refusing their fake CE is you cancelling the order, and getting your deposit back on cancel is difficult in its own right. There's silent understanding the CE certs are fake and you're not supposed to ask questions, but play along and hope customs wont stick their nose into it (they often don't, which is why this "sy”

    u/upalse3 points · Aug 26, 2026View

  • “Many factories "buy" testing reports which can cost less than $10 USD which is probably what they attempted in this case. Since so long has passed you probably have no recourse via the original payment method, you should try and contact Alibaba anyway possible and link them to this sub-reddit, also inform the factory that there details are being posted here and if a satisfactory resolution is made”

    u/prestigesourcing3 points · Aug 26, 2026View

  • “As a rule, Alibaba do not refund. They draw out complaints processed and never answer questions. They put buyers in an endless loop and never clearly answer questions. You will never actually get a full refund for anything. Better to make the request once and when it doesn’t get refunded, go straight to a charge back via your card or bank provider.”

    u/nadal_nadal2 points · Aug 28, 2026View

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        "excerpt": "Trade Assurance is worthless.\n\n Chinese sellers lie and are considered savvy business people for doing so (among Chinese).\n\n Alibaba almost always backs the supplier.\n\n I'll still use it, but you need to know who you are doing business with. Either by independent verification from other buyers, or going to china and inspecting product yourself.",
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        "excerpt": "Many factories \"buy\" testing reports which can cost less than $10 USD which is probably what they attempted in this case. Since so long has passed you probably have no recourse via the original payment method, you should try and contact Alibaba anyway possible and link them to this sub-reddit, also inform the factory that there details are being posted here and if a satisfactory resolution is made",
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        "excerpt": "As a rule, Alibaba do not refund. They draw out complaints processed and never answer questions. They put buyers in an endless loop and never clearly answer questions. You will never actually get a full refund for anything. Better to make the request once and when it doesn’t get refunded, go straight to a charge back via your card or bank provider.",
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        "author": "Treestylefashion",
        "excerpt": "I’ve sourced over $100k on Alibaba over the past few years. I had 2 major seller disputes where factories tried to play games with quality/shipment. Both times, Trade Assurance refunded me 100% because I kept all communication on the official chat and had clear specs. OP's 17 months deadlock is definitely a super weird outlier, not the norm. Don't give up on forcing an escalation.",
        "posted_at": "2026-08-27T09:12:08.000Z",
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