A PG&E customer on the NEM 3.0 plan details how the billing system's "two locked buckets" for Generation and Delivery credits creates a financial trap, where high-value export credits are often...

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    "summary": "A PG&E customer on the NEM 3.0 plan details how the billing system's \"two locked buckets\" for Generation and Delivery credits creates a financial trap, where high-value export credits are often unusable and expire, leading to higher bills.",
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        "excerpt": "TLDR\n\n If you’re going through the motions of getting ChatGPT to write this for you, maybe ask it for a high level summary at the same time. Sorry, I read AI output all day at work and seeing it here is just too much.",
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        "excerpt": "As a solar enthusiast/solar contractor, I can't even understand this. Great breakdown. The billing system is just too complicated.",
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        "author": "Acefr",
        "excerpt": "NEM3.0 is a scam. Just don't export and use up the electricity stored in your battery.",
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        "excerpt": "I miss the old early days of OhmConnect. I was NEM 1.0, no battery, and with an EV. I would run my AC and charge the car between 6-9PM and would make $$$ whenever there was an OhmHour and more during Flex alerts. I earned 6K one year and got a 1099 to show for it and my SDGE electric bill was $36 for the year.",
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        "excerpt": "This matches my experience with NEM3. I have Enphase hardware and this year I’m manually turning exporting on and off to drain my battery to 50%, which will normally power us until the next morning.\n\n The infuriating thing is that in other regions I believe the Enphase app will let you control the percent you export, but that option is not available for my setup, I imagine by design.\n\n PG&E billin",
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        "excerpt": "What the algorithm misses is that ~95% of that $3.00/kWh credit goes into the Generation bucket - which you cannot use to pay for PG&E Delivery charges, and which gets wiped out at True-Up.\n\n I thought that, too, until I got my first true up bill (and then my second just two months ago).\n\n From a search:\n\n \"In Resolution E-5301, the CPUC specifically ordered PG&E, SCE, and SDG&E to modify their NB",
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        "author": "ocsolar",
        "excerpt": "AI or not, this is an accurate analysis.\n\n Run in self powered mode. Pre-cool and pre-heat under solar.\n\n For extra spiciness, turn off exports.",
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        "author": "Fit_Spite_962",
        "excerpt": "Why on earth would you dump your battery into the grid?",
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      "[post] Under PG&E's NEM 3.0 (E-ELEC Solar Billing Plan), your electric bill is split into two separate buckets that can never mix (printed right on Page 4 of every PG&E statement):",
      "[post] Every extra dollar of Generation credit you generate by emptying your battery at 7:00 PM in September is 100% unusable \\\"paper money.\\\"",
      "[post] Dumping the battery made my September PG&E bill jump from ~$1 to ~$34 in real cash (~$20 worse than if the battery had just powered my house overnight)..."
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    "post_text": "TL;DR: If you are on California's NEM 3.0 (Solar Billing Plan) with PG&E and a Community Choice Aggregator (like SVCE, Peninsula Clean Energy, Ava, or MCE), stop letting your battery empty itself to the grid from 6:00 PM – 8:00 PM in August and September. It is not a financially viable option.\n\n[Disclaimer before you read any further: Yes I used AI Agents to do this deep analysis. I found the analysis to be very insightful. I spent several hours and a lot of my own brain cycles while *using* the AI tool to do this analysis.. Yes, I used AI agent to generate this output. If you hate AI and want to ignore the message and pile onto the messenger for using a tool that you disapprove, please stop here. Do not read any further. If you are interested in the analysis, please continue.]\n\nTesla's Time-Based Control (\"Savings Mode\") sees the ~$3.00/kWh September export spike and dumps your Powerwall down to 20% by 8:00 PM. What the algorithm misses is that ~95% of that $3.00/kWh credit goes into the Generation bucket - which you cannot use to pay for PG&E Delivery charges, and which gets wiped out at True-Up. Meanwhile, because your battery is now empty at 8:00 PM, your house has to buy electricity back from PG&E all night long at ~27 to 30 cents/kWh in real cash delivery charges.\n\nI went through 1.5 years of my PG&E + Silicon Valley Clean Energy (SVCE) bills to see why my bills were...",
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